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5AA with David Penberthy, Will Goodings and Anthony Albanese

01-August-2018

5AA BREAKFAST
INTERVIEW WITH DAVID PENBERTHY, WILL GOODINGS AND ANTHONY ALBANESE

 

1 August 2018

Subjects: super Saturday by-elections; corporate tax cuts

E&OE…

WILL GOODINGS:      
It is a Wednesday morning on 5AA Breakfast. That means it is Two Tribes time, albeit, Two Tribes with a slightly different cast this morning.

The Minister for Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs, Alan Tudge, is in Adelaide and stepping in at late notice too for Christopher Pyne. Minister, good morning to you.

ALAN TUDGE:
Good morning, Will.

WILL GOODINGS:
And Anthony Albanese in his usual role as Anthony Albanese. Albo, good morning to you.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
G’day, how are you going? What have you done with Pyney?

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
We're not sure. We got a frantic text last night from the Member for Sturt, Albo, saying that he's unfortunately double booked. I think he's on a plane somewhere. Not sure what he's up to. Maybe he's heading over your way to do a bit of campaigning in Marrickville or something.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Oh, he'd be very welcome here. My vote would go up.

WILL GOODINGS:
Now look, Albo, we're going to start with Alan, who's very kindly joining us here in the studio. Actually first, before we get into the argy-bargy, Minister, what brings you to town today?

ALAN TUDGE:
Well, we're formally opening a new global service centre for the Department of Home Affairs here in Modbury in Adelaide, and it's 250 new jobs. And in essence we've consolidated the service centres from Canada, from London and from Sydney and placing them right here in Adelaide. So 250 new jobs. We're formally opening that today.

DAVID PENBERTHY:
Yeah right. Cool. That sounds like a good thing if you're shifting the bureaucracy around the country and creating jobs here. That's…

ALAN TUDGE:
And from internationally back here to Australia.

DAVID PENBERTHY:
Yeah right. Now, can we get your thoughts first, because obviously last week when we caught up with Christopher and Albo the discussion was dominated by the then pending Super Saturday by-elections.

Do you think that in hindsight the government made a bit of a tactical error in talking up the prospect of a Labor loss in at least one of those seats?

Because it was always billed as a test of leadership for both leaders, and as such, logic would suggest that your boss is the one who's copped a black eye from the result.

ALAN TUDGE:
Yeah, it's a good question, Pembo. I think you always want to manage expectations in these things and we always did say, though, that it is very, very unusual for a government to win a by-election off an Opposition. In fact, the last time it occurred was 100 years ago.

So we repeatedly made that point. But nevertheless, the polls showed that it was tighter than what the result was in Longman. Having said that, the swing was pretty much the average swing for a by-election. So you know, we've got to keep it in perspective.

WILL GOODINGS:      
What about you Albo? All eyes were on you in the lead up to Saturday, whether you liked it or not.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
Labor won four of five so I guess all we can say is commiserations, Albo.

ALAN TUDGE:
He's the most unhappy bloke in Australia in relation to the by-election results…

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
It was a great result for the Labor Party and I campaigned very strongly for all of the candidates in the by-elections. It again showed Malcolm Turnbull's lack of judgement.

He was out there saying that they were going to get a one in 100 year result by getting a seat from the Opposition in a by-election. And it was always unlikely that that was ever a prospect and he had, Malcolm Turnbull, yet again, overcome by hubris, showing how out of touch he is.

And I'm very pleased that the voters in these by-elections - whether they were voting Labor or whether they were smashing Georgina Downer down there in Mayo - they smashed the LNP right across the country because they wanted support for education, and health, and infrastructure, rather than support for big banks.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
But Albo, rightly or wrongly, all of the analysis in the lead up to it was that if Bill Shorten- that if Labor lost even one seat, worst case scenario a couple of seats, that the Labor leadership would be alive.

Do you think that as a result of what happened on Saturday that that talk should now end?

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Well, I think that my comments are the same as they were last week, David, on your show, and in numerous other interviews over the last five years, which is to say that we have a leader, the leader is Bill Shorten. I'm happy to be part of the team.

We're a united team and we will continue to be so. The question of the leadership is one for the LNP. It's Malcolm Turnbull that's under siege from members of his own backbench.

WILL GOODINGS:      
Speaking of which, Minister Alan Tudge, on the back of this, especially the Longman result, are you having internal conversation now about capping your corporate tax cut plan?

ALAN TUDGE:
Listen, we're taking a look at this, but as you know, the Prime Minister and the Treasurer have said that we're fully committed to our corporate tax plan, and the reason being is that it does create investment, which then leads to jobs.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
Sure, so you're having a look at it or are you fully committed to it as it is?

ALAN TUDGE:
So we're taking it back to the parliament as it is. Now, I go back to the previous conversation, I add my commiserations to Albo in relation to the by-election results, but he said we got smashed here in Mayo.

You know what the primary vote for the Labor Party was in Mayo? It was 6 per cent, 6 per cent primary vote. Now that says something about the Labor Party's support…

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
I think they locked up their candidate too. He wasn't allowed to campaign.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Yeah, that's right. That's right.

So maybe if you were out here the vote would have gone up.

Just keep arguing this. Mayo was a devastating result for the Labor Party…

ALAN TUDGE:
Six per cent, Albo.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
…but it's okay for the LNP. Seriously.

ALAN TUDGE:
Yes, yes, we would like to see a higher…

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
It's too early in the morning to be that pissed. You are kidding.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
You can't accuse a Minister of the Crown of being drunk on air, Albo.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
I can if it’s 8:30.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
I know it's quarter past nine in Sydney…

ALAN TUDGE:
I’ve been up here in Adelaide and we were talking about the Mayo by-election. I looked at that result and geez that must be embarrassing for you Albo. So anyway.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Oh yeah, yeah. It's embarrassing for Labor but its fine for the LNP.

ALAN TUDGE:
My condolences to you in relation to the by-election results. So…

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
And then Alexander Downer has ensured that the result will be worse for the LNP at the next election, with the arrogant statement that he's made coming across once again as the landed gentry with such a sense of entitlement.

ALAN TUDGE:
Oh, come on Albo.

WILL GOODINGS:      
I think it's more the double dipping fiasco than anything else, Albo.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
Spring rolls going twice into the soya sauce. Just before we wrap it up - do you have any thoughts about whether Georgina Downer should run again for the seat, or do you think that in hindsight maybe her name was more of a hindrance than a help, Alan Tudge?

ALAN TUDGE:
Yeah, absolutely. I would love to see her run for the seat again. I think Georgina Downer is an outstanding candidate. She's obviously grew up in the area, she's articulate, she's smart, she's got great values and I think she'd be an outstanding member of the parliament.

WILL GOODINGS:      
And you want her to run again too, Albo?

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
I think it's a terrific idea. I think she should run…

ALAN TUDGE:
You putting your candidate up again Albo too? You might get 7 per cent this time rather than 6 per cent.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
I think she should run in all 150 seats.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
Can you name the Labor candidate for Mayo, Albo?

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Well I don't think it matters, mate. I don’t think it matters.

ALAN TUDGE:
That could be the lowest ever result, primary result, on record, anywhere in this seat ever in the country from a major party. I can’t think of a lower result.

ANTHONY ALBANESE:          
Tudgey, I'll give you the big tip mate. I'll give you the big tip. People are listening to this radio station, it rates very well, and they've just heard you argue that the result in Mayo was bad for the Labor Party but not bad for the Liberal Party. I mean seriously.

DAVID PENBERTHY:  
Well, there were many losers from it Albo. We won't keep speculating about who they might have been. Anthony Albanese, love having you on and Alan Tudge, heroic effort stepping to the plate. Appreciate it. One of the pluckiest people in the Federal Parliament.

And we're very sorry he accused you of being pissed on air.

ALAN TUDGE:
Well, that's pretty unfair, isn't it? What is it, nine in the morning? Jeez, Albo.

WILL GOODINGS:      
It is a nice thing about Australia because in a lot of other countries, if you accused a Minister of the Crown of being drunk, you'll probably get thrown in jail, wouldn't you?

ALAN TUDGE:
Well that's probably true, I don't know. Anyway, great to be here in Adelaide once again.

WILL GOODINGS:      
Good on you.

[ENDS]

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